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June 13, 2009

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if teevee din't kill newspapers, neither will the other boob tube.

I was going to ask you if you had any tomatoes to throw at the newser guy but you were lined up to ask a question.

Other notes:

I wanted to hug brad flora when he said that he was excited to be close to making a $60k business. He's really nice.

Re paying the rent: it's funny, I work with lots of folks at the Reader, pro journalists, who have not-insignificant sidelines in bands. And lots of friends who do stuff like acting and art that don't pay the rent, or at least not all of it. Pro artists are great and necessary, like pro journalists... but not everyone great and necessary (cf billmon) pays the rent doing their genius. Salary != status != value.

I'm sorry, but Digg gets the finger.

Revenue problem that doesn't come up: overpaying boring columnists.

whet moser, boring columnists don't bother me as much as purposely dishonest ones.

Nobody holds the panels you want because we all know you have to bow to the money.

The money people don't want to hear you complaining about them,"Back to work you commie or we'll fire you! There are plenty of hungry bloggers and unemployed journalists who would love to have your job"

@Whet,

Anytime you want to do that man-hug, just ping me.

I AM excited to be close to making a $60k business. I'm excited because that means I don't have to worry about rent, eating, insurance, or any of the other things I need to be comfortable enough to keep working on the Citizen. It also means I'll have some money left over to hire folks to come in and work on things I want to do but can't yet, which could lead to even more growth and opportunity. Once you're sustainable, it's like a huge weight being lifted (so say my startup friends who've hit the mark). Heck, once I hit $25k, that's enough to where I can afford to do things on my terms indefinitely.

@Athenae

First, it was nice meeting you today. You have cool friends.

I hear you on the "who's going to pay me while I write this stuff?" line of thinking...But if you're really serious about this stuff, you can find a way through. When I was finishing up J-school a year ago, I had about 10 news-related things I wanted to do. I thought about my options:

1. Find a respectable media job that pays the bills and make these things in my spare time.
2. Find a respectable media job and apply for funding from a foundation or fellowship before starting on it.
3. Take a job at Starbucks to pay for the basics while I worked on one of my ideas until it would sustain.

I chose a variant on #3, finding dirt-cheap housing, living on ramen, and taking on a few web design/development jobs on the side while I worked full-time on the Citizen, an idea that I thought had the most potential.

My last year has had a few phases:

1. The big disappointment

When I started, I wrote to many of the well-known new media gurus and future of journalism pundits to tell them I had been infected by their enthusiasm for the future of media and was going to try to make something new and useful for the landscape they were predicting. Not one of them ever wrote me back. I've kept on sending them updates over the last year. Never a response. This taught me a valuable lesson. Outside of your family and friends, nobody cares about your ideas as much as they care about their own ideas, unless your idea can make them some money or be useful to them.

So yeah, no one is going to usher in the future you want. You must try to do it yourself or forsake all rights to gripe about how it turns out. It's like voting. If you didn't do it, you can't complain about the guy you elected.

I eventually found the people I needed to keep sane, but they wound up all being technology and startup people, not media consultants. In retrospect, this seems obvious. Heh.

2. Complete utter disillusionment and despair

After about 6 months of working on the Citizen as a network of local blogs, I realized I wasn't going to be able to build a business out of this for a few reasons I won't go into here. This realization, that my initial idea wasn't as good as I'd thought, was a real downer and hard to bounce back from. I think a lot of people give up here. Fortunately, I was determined to not go home empty-handed after half a year of living the crummy life, so I revamped the site to do what it does now. I moved from idea 1 to idea 2.

3. Signs of life

January through March was just me and some friends posting stories to the new, open the Citizen and talking about them. Eventually, people started seeing what we were doing and joining in. This was a fun time, iterating very quickly through designs and ideas and just hammering down on getting new stuff up every morning. People who found the service were saying great things about it.

4. Pulling back to find a way to make $$$

About 2 months ago I realized this might "work" and now I needed to work on the business end more than the editorial side. And that's where I'm still at, meeting with potential advertisers, lining up new ones etc. Tweaking the code to our programs. Like I said at the panel, I'm on trajectory to be sustainable. We'll see.

So yeah, it's been ugly and clumsy and a little scary at times, but I've always found a way through so far. Maybe you can too.

Hey, Brad, it was nice to meet you, too.

Your point is exactly what I was trying to say, and you know, I think a lot of the time when we talk about innovation what we're really talking about is the determination to succeed with a new venture regardless of how hard it is. There's a lot of willingness to surrender to the supposedly inevitable at big media companies today, willingness to try something for ten minutes and then declare it's over and we should all just go home and give up. Whereas the people working in independent media, the student press (my personal favorites) and in some local online ventures are a lot more willing to say, "Okay, this has to work, let's think a little harder about how to make it do that."

A.

I think the artists/band analogy is right on. One problem with journalism/writing is that, like acting, art, music, etc., is is intrinsically rewarding in its own right, therefore it attracts a huge supply of practitioners, driving the pay down enormously. The economics of say ditch digging don't suffer from this because when there is no ditch digging work, ditch diggers go find something else to do. Whereas people who want to write, act, play music, etc. keep plugging away in the hopes that they will figure out how to make money some day.

Why sweat the small stuff?

What the tools need is a little distraction. Why not point out that it doesn't matter about the democracy. 5 of the 9 of the supreme court are catholic. With the new Puerto Rican tool it will be 6 out of 9. Bye bye Roe vs Wade. Hell, Gingrich has already smelled the wind and switched.

Democracy? When the fundies, Baptists, Holy Rollers, snake handlers, Mormons, and Limbaugh puppets realize that they have lost everything the whole ball of wax is going to come undone. Stock up on guns, ammo, white robes and dynomite, religious war is coming here.

And you are worried about newspapers? Why not cry about NPR or 1/2 the budget for the warmongers, no universal health care.

Jezz get a grip, everyone just thinks of themselves. Newspapers are a waste of good trees. Hell, if all newspapers were shut down and I could still make it to a good music concert, I'd be happy.

When I heard Dan Sinker say this was a diverse group (he meant professionally) I noted that only a few non-white faces were present and no non-white presenters.

I wonder how many Chicagoans of any color would watched a broadcast CMFC had it been televised citywide. Is it unreasonable to suggest that the future of (hard news) journalism may hinge our ability to say things, at conferences like this, that will win their attention, even perhaps via local mainstream media?

My take from a civic media perspective is at http://civicmediausa.wordpress.com/

Good event. Glad for the opportunity to attend.

Wasn't there some ancient Greek who argued that reading and writing were going to turn us all into Alzheimer's patients? Of course, we know about him because someone wrote it down.

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