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December 20, 2009

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Great analysis, A. All you left out is that it isn't the progressives who are hurling asinine insults at their opposition, it is the conservatives who called us traitors for opposing the Iraq invasion, who call us heathens for opposing the fundamentalists attempt to take over the government, who call us baby killers for wanting women to make their own medical decisions, and who accuse us of wanting to commit genocide on seniors for wanting them to be able to use end of life counseling. Are we supposed to now oppose anything of benefit to the nation just to get revenge for those insults? If so, we need to revise our script.

...I admit to being somewhat sympathetic to Booman's argument, but my view is that he doesn't actually get all the way down to the nut of the issue. The failure to achieve a truly progressive outcome isn't directly a product of hurling DFH invective against Members of Congress or their spouses, thereby pissing them off. The behavior we've seen by Lieberman, Nelson, Lincoln, or Mary Landrieu (don't forget Mary, now) isn't a result of any of us saying they are 'whores' or 'monsters', but is rather the result of them not being afraid of us or of the Democratic leadership...

As things now stand, none of these Senators owe any measure of their ability to effectively deliver the bacon (and keeping their meal tickets punched) to either progressive voters or a pre-chordate Democratic leadership that refuses to play hardball with its caucus members when it comes time to move legislation...

This bill sucks because the people who made it suck have nothing to fear from either our little potty mouths or the "leadership" of the party...

It's a big problem when elected officials are so timid that they will NEVER do anything to upset the conventional wisdom and the conventional wisdom is set by mewling idiots in the press that don't give a fig about facts or context. I don't know how you crack that nut but it has very little to do with smacking hippies or 60 votes. I think back to Russ Feingold being 1 of a 100 Sentors to vote against the Patriot Act when it clearly gutted so much of the 4th Amendment. If you multiply his courage 4000% you still only get to 40 votes. We are a weak country when it comes to putting quality people in office. As a nation we've fallen in love with bullshiters.

And that's before we get to the batshit insane GOP!

The right has shown repeatedly that they'll gladly move the goalposts of what's considered "left" to just outside the gates John Birch Society, as well. If the DFHs were less left or hidden under rocks out of sight of the "centrists" the right would just attack someone like John Kerry or Barack Obama as a socialist and a traitor to the country. Oh, wait, they already did that.

Pedantic, but Move On was censured and not censored.

And "in the end the outcomes are the optics" is fucking genius.

Thank. You!

Brilliant. Full agreement.

The right has shown repeatedly that they'll gladly move the goalposts of what's considered "left" to just outside the gates John Birch Society

Well, it's a good thing that the JBS is an official sponsor of CPAC then!


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they are timid because the teevee gnews are ANTI-LIBERAL and slavishly tongue all that is raygun/rite.

For the record, I used the phrase "blow job" on teevee not out of frustration generally, but because I thought it the best way to show how insignificant the act of consensual fellatio is compared to the deliberate use of torture. Next time I'll try the phrase, "Clinton stuck his penis in Monica's mouth," rather than blow job, because Howard Kurtz told me I should have used a "euphemism."

But as to the rest of the post, right on the money.

Um, Howard, "blowjob" IS a euphemism.

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