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December 10, 2009

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Disagree with you a bit here. I don't think you can really compare the few protests before recent wars to a movement of protest and other actions that went on for years aimed at ending the Vietnam War.

It would be interesting to look at the role that the draft played in the protests of 60's and the lack of it in relation to today's wars. I'd say those in the 60's were more involved because the stakes were higher given they could be drafted. And given the number drafted more were at risk

But arguing which generation is better misses the bigger pic. What we should have looked at, and God knows we never did, were the lessons learned from Vietnam. Of course Goverment learned to ditch the draft or else risk the people in the streets to stop wars and also keep the scope of war to manageable minimum less people complain.....we can see now how that has worked out for us in Iraq and Afghanistan and somewhere down the line gov't will look again at it and I shudder at what they'll come up with.

Hopefully "the kids" have learned that in order to get anything done you work your ass off behind the scenes to get a guy like Obama elected. Noisy public protests are so... teabag. Like listening to your parents' music.

Jesus Christ, there were a couple of MILLION of us out on the streets of London right before this fucking awful war started, and when we came home and turned on the news, we got about a 2-minute mention, with a radically deflated crowd estimate. Trust me: there were that many of us. We were on that march for hours, and never even made it to Hyde Park, that's how huge the crowds were. Straight down the memory hole, that one.

What could end up mobilizing this generation by the tens of thousands is Jobs....well lack of Jobs once they come out of college

There is a major disconnect between the protests of the kids today (and yes, there are still many of them doing some form of protest)and the overseas wars because there is no mandatory draft...and one of the few writers I've seen to seriously address that disconnect - from the returning soldiers' point of view, at least - is Ethan Brown in "Shake The Devil Off". Not sure if it would seriously impact people's willingness to take to the streets if they realized how many veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan were looking at trash in the street here and, thinking it concealed a bomb like back in the war zone, drove erratically to avoid it, but the mental toll this is going to take on the increased numbers of troops being sent off to try and finish what Dubya started needs to be scrutinized.

protesting is sooo baby boomer.

But arguing which generation is better misses the bigger pic.

See, I should have just said this, and left the rest of it alone, because this is my point exactly. So my generation wins ... or yours does ... so what? Where does that leave us to go? What do we DO now?

A.

First thing we do, A, is not let up on Obama over Afghanistan or Iran.
Jim Hightower's got a column up at the Texas Observer about this.
We're sending 30,000 more of our kids to die for Hamid Karzai? WTF?

Finishing what Bush started? We should have his @$$ in jail as well as Karl and Dick's,
and thoroughly repudiate everything he ever did in office. That would be Change to Believe In.

E&P, RIP

The current generation don't need to protest and get the shit beaten out of them. They have the internet. They got Obama elected. And they are going to change the world. Just watch and be amazed.

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