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December 01, 2009

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Buggy, I got married a few months before 9/11 and had my son in 2002. There are indeed some redeeming qualities to these times, but overall, we were better off ten years ago before the election from hell kicked it all off.

And as far as the GOP goes...you think they will really feel what you're saying at this point? I wish they would, but I'm not holding my breath.

Liprap, my great hope is that the Republican Party will keep getting hammered in elections, and keep saying, "Why don't they love us anymore?" in despair. As you say, I'm not holding my breath. But that's kinda what I mean by rueing this decade.

As for the married and kids thing, if I hadn't had Mr. BuggyQ, this decade would have *really* sucked. :-)

Yes, the Aughts sucked, even if that was the decade I got married, even if that was the decade i found my activist voice, even if that was the decade I moved into my wonderful house, even if that was the decade that saw me take two trips to Italy and three trips to Costa Rica and another one to Scandinavia. Yes some wonderful things happened for me personally, but it's NOT ABOUT ME and the world as a whole suffered. And yes I'd love to blame the Republican Party but Jesus Christ there's so much blame to go around I don't know where to start. The Democrats have been just as bad in so very many ways, we've witnessed the death of our "liberal" media, and really the worst part about the entire decade was how the people just basically gave up all sorts of control to big multi-national corporations and said: "here, you run the show for a while."

And we will be regretting that move for a long, long, long time.

yes, the oughts sucked. sure, i did fall in love, but since he died instead of marriage, it completely sucks. and other reasons made it suck even more and georgee just was the rancid turd in the middle.
the suckiest part is we are gonna pay for the turd longer and the republikkklan have gone from being mean, to crazee barbarian mean.

"...the Aughts or the Naughties or whateverthehell we're calling it..."

Back when it started, I read the suggestion of "the Pre-Teens", which is still my favorite.

BuggyQ, you leave out the role that Lewinsky played in the GOP's upending. The GOP was the latest incarnation of the Fearmonger Society, a strain of American-ism we've had since Europeans first stank the joint up. Any hoo, for several decades, GOP'ers were telling the country that only they could see the dangers hidden from ordinary folks. Things like Communist infiltration, flouridization of the water supply, etc. And when Bill Clinton got in, they assured America that we had been duped by this "slick" guy who was secretly a criminal. They began investigating him Day One, and never stopped. They looked like they always used to: hysterical paranoids, deluded into panic.

But one day...

That's right: when the evidence emerged that Clinton had in fact lied about his sexual affairs, every GOP'er for a thousand yards came forward with a great big gigantic "I told you so." Sweet vindication! Sanctimony validated! All those years of telling you everyone was out to get us, and they finally got proven right.

When 9/11 happened, they did what they always do: use it as proof that there were dangerous people in the world who wanted to hurt us. They hopped aboard their favorite train, the "Self-Righteousness Express," and rode it for all it was worth.

Telling Americans that we were over-reacting was tantamount to saying that 9/11 didn't happen. 9/11 proved, for once and for all, that the GOP was right: there are scary things afoot. Conspiracy theories were true (at least GOP ones)!

Of course, at the end of the day, the fault lies primarily with those who have been too weak and timid to stand up to these fools. Whether misguided or venal, people like the GOP will always be with us. The only way to address the threat is to fight it as hard as you can -- a lesson we seem to forget with each passing generation.


I know for sure — particularly as I stare down one of my last birthdays before the half-century mark — that I was a heck of a lot younger before this decade started...

How about the 1930?
Depression
Hitler
Stalin

or the 1860's

Slavery
Civil War
Death of hundreds of thousands of americans

or the 1910's

Trench Warfare
Influenza Pandemic
the two combined killed millions

Do we have no sense of perspective?

How about the 1930's?
Depression
Hitler
Stalin

or the 1860's

Slavery
Civil War
Death of hundreds of thousands of Americans

or the 1910's

Trench Warfare
Influenza Pandemic
the two combined killed millions

Do we have no sense of perspective?

One word, Andy: narcissism.

I do think, however, that you can make a case for the Pre-Teens being in the top 10.

About "that which does not kill us" ...

That was NOT written on one of Friedrich Nietzsche's good days. Because it's just plain horsecrap.

If the force applied isn't enough to kill you, it can still put you in a bad enough case that just cutting your hair would be enough to kill you.

Since I've seen this sequence of events unfold right before my eyes, and since I paid the piper with a decent chunk of my own life into the bargain, it's fair to say this isn't a position I'm going to back down on.

Aw, Stormcrow, don't be such a literalist. (I keed...)

But I will say this--in this particular case, I do think what we went through *did* make us stronger (us meaning the progressives in this country). We learned that we do have power when we work together, that we can turn things around if we get off our asses and *do* something about it (after all, whatever you may think about Obama, you absolutely have to agree that he's better than McMavericky Maverickdude), and that there are ways to fight back against the right wing noise machine that *work*. Those same things can be applied against wavering faux Democrats, too, btw.

I'm not saying things are hunky-dory--not by a long shot. But ten years ago, you and I wouldn't have been having this conversation at all. The hell of the last ten years pushed people like us into the blogosphere, and I think that's a good thing.

The hell of the last ten years pushed people like us into the blogosphere...

One could make the case that there wasn't much of a blogosphere ten years ago.

I wasn't alive during the 30s, the 10s, or the 1860s.


That said, I didn't think it was possible for a decade to suck as bad as the 80s. This one did and then some.

andy, they stopped teaching perspective in the 50's when mccarthyism killed it.

Despite all of the loony teabaggers in the GOP, the impotent centrism of the current Dems still could lead to voter apathy on our side in the upcoming elections, enabling the insane to somehow again run the asylum.

I'm with Stormcrow. That which does not kill you tends to leave you with permanent damage, and probably a disability besides. Or, to make it into a pithy thentiment -- That which does not kill you still hastens your death.

I've had enough of that crap. Suffering isn't ennobling, and if, as the privileged love to remind us, it actually is character-building (which I doubt highly), a lot of us must be at least three productions of a particular play by Luigi Pirandello to the good by now.

I've had a long, long 15 years or so, because the latter half of the '90s wasn't particularly great for Ontarians, either, thanks to Brian Baloney, NAFTA, and Mike Fucking Harris. I'm tired. I'm in the best place in my life I've ever been, and I still feel besieged.

Thanks youz, BlakeNo1. Reagan/bush was so bad it is hard to find anyone who can remember it anymore. But having said that, it didn't shake a stick to George Bush. Perhaps they had intended to have us in Iraq by the end of that decade, but didn't expect Clinton to win. That seemed to set the machine back 8 years. But it could certainly be argued that then is when they started gearing up the Neo-War Machine with Central America, Granada and Panama.
I remember Dick Chaney as Secretary of Defense.
Think about that.

Still, at the time we thought we'd seen it all.
But we had No Idea how Bad It Could Get.
And then along comes George, 9/11, the War, then 8/29 Bagdhad on da'Bayou...The Looting of the Treasury...
I mean, these Oughts have been pretty fucking bad, because it won't be over into the Teens I fear. I just don't see these Thugs walking away. They put too many decades into giving us the Decade from Hell.
I think we are in for much more Confusion.

Thanks Buggy. Nice post if yer'into existential quantifiers like Death.

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