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January 13, 2013

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Rep. Jose Serrano (D-NY) is already ahead of you on the limit thing, although he didnt limit it to Obama.

Ah, but A., you are clearly not a Sensible Liberal.

For two years the Republican congresscritters have been pissing and moaning that the POTUS has to do their job for them because eff you, that's why. Congress bought a shitload of stuff and now they do not want to pay for it just like every effing deadbeat dad including the deadbeat dads in congress.
While I am as annoyed as anyone that the POTUS gave up this rather charming bargaining tool I really do not think there is any bargaining to do.
They either do their effing job by paying the bills they run up or he can adjourn their asses. Then things would get very interesting.

A-

I'm scoring this as another example of negotiating against yourself before the negotiations begin. He vetoed the 14th Amendment solution, too, so that means he has zero alternatives.

Any caving now means he wanted it to happen, so I hope Granny likes Friskies.

Rgds,

Tengrain

I get the point that Platinum is rare and expensive. But as the treasury doesn't print bills for the higher denominations any more (why move around physical million dollar bills with the possibility of loss and theft when you can just do a bank to bank wire transfer) why would we even have to make the coins ?

And if the problem is the need to have a physical piece of metal were the value of the raw metal is as much as the coin, there are all sorts of rare metals that can be made in reactors. Extremely expensive to produce, but as the reactors are running anyway, would be a good project for a doctoral student.

Of course, unfortunately they would have to find a metal to make that doesn't rapidly decay.

Even worse, though is that in making a Platinum coin, you're dealing with Glen Beck fans who think the price of the metal in their minted coins is as much as the value of the coin - instead of the small fraction of value, not realizing that you're paying for collecting coins and not for the metal.

We don't need the coin to be worth the value on its face at all. We could make a penny that says "TRILLION DOLLARS" and as long as it's legal tender it works.

The way the statute was written, it would have to be coin made of platinum, but could have any denomination. Treasury mints it, deposits it to the Fed, debt ceiling is that much farther away.

But the real story seems to be that the Fed has stated that it would refuse to accept that deposit. Which is a potential constitutional crisis in itself.

Forget fiat currency, this is just fiat rule.

Though having said that, this makes it clear that if anyone in charge wanted these problems to go away, they'd just make it so.

So obviously this is the way they want things made.

those who made the mess do not get to say how it gets fixed. period.

Constitutional crisis? Who the fuck elected the Fed?

The Fed doesn't get a choice about accepting currency that is, by statute, legal tender.

Legally and economically the $1T coin solves a problem. But using the debt-limit issue to beat the living shit out of GOP solves a much bigger problem.

It takes zero time to implement the $1T coin option, and public statements that "we're not going to do it" aren't binding, so FIRST we'll see how much beating Boner&Co can take before they cave.

This is rich. The pro-torture, pro-assassination Obama regime says that minting a coin is immoral and beyond the pale.

Can they take back that Peace Prize now?

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